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Interview with Mark Dronen


Founder of GoProductsUSA!

October 10, 2004
EIGHT QUESTIONS ABOUT OUTSOURCING AND INNOVATION

Ben Bradley recently sat down with Mark Dronen, CEO of Go! Products Inc., a manufacturer and marketer of high-end specialty barbeque grills and toolboxes to talk about testosterone-driven innovation, cheese shaped hats, and simple outsourcing mistakes.

BRADLEY: Give us some background about Go! Products

DRONEN: I love tailgating, sports, camping and eating. A few years ago in a parking lot in Indianapolis, I saw a grill that was unlike anything I had ever seen.

It is hard to explain, but to give you an idea, imagine a high-end stainless steel grill (four burner grill, removable cooler, marine grade AM/FM/CB player, USB port, GPS, etc) on a patented scissor lift chassis. This chassis connects to the tow-hitch of your vehicle so you can easily transport the grill anywhere. The chassis is wheeled so the entire grill/cooler combination can be wheeled anywhere with ease.

It was innovation fueled by testosterone. As a guy who loves to cook out year round, I immediately fell in love, not only in the concept, but in the technology and its potential for future products. So much so, I just had to be a part of it.

When we bought the company, we inherited a manufacturing partner from the former owners. The grill was manufactured in small lots and their pricing was out of line with the market. We knew they couldn’t support us when we grew, in fact, we were starting to see hints that they wouldn’t be able to support us much longer. We decided to move manufacturing to China and that’s when things got interesting.

BRADLEY: What is tailgating and what is the Chinese translation for it?

DRONEN: Tailgating is a uniquely American phenomenon. To my knowledge, there is no Chinese word that accurately describes it. How do you explain it to someone that has never done it? How do you explain it to someone from China? If you explain it literally (“We wear identical sweaters and drive to a parking lot with our friends. Then we decorate our bodies with paint and taunt our enemies who wear foam slices of cheese on their heads. Then we cook meat with fire.”) you risk sounding a bit demented in any language.

BRADLEY: So what was the problem?

DRONEN: We knew we our pricing was out of line. We knew the big box retailers would pound us if we didn’t build a margin for the channel. Moving manufacturing offshore was a logical alternative.

BRADLEY: Was outsourcing to China the right choice?

DRONEN: Yes it was. But without a doubt, our biggest problem with outsourcing manufacturing to China was our urgency. Our dealers were screaming for new products. Our partner in China represented to us that they could handle the entire product lifecycle. We thought that included innovative early stage product improvement. It didn’t. Outsourcing to China was the right alternative. Our problem is that we went to China too early in our product development cycle.

BRADLEY: Let’s talk more about the product development cycle. Were there cultural issues?

DRONEN: I think so. Our style is to brainstorm and spend many weeks looking at all the alternatives on paper. Doing it on paper is cheaper than doing it with metal. Once we know all the alternatives, it is easier to begin defining functionality. It is important to remember that we’re talking about a leisure product for something that is uniquely American. It is hard to innovate if you don’t have the context for how a product will be used. If you grew up with football and tailgating and barbeque, then you have an entire collection of experience to draw from. If you’ve never taunted someone who wears a cheese shaped hat, how can you really understand the tailgating experience? How can you understand the hassles of transporting a grill? How can you innovate unless you understand the experience of the product?

BRADLEY: Where did things go wrong?

DRONEN: Looking back, what we really should have done is focused on product development here in the US. If we would have taken the time to work on the product design, it would have saved us many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then, once we were ready, send the mass production to China. Things would have been much easier and cheaper.

BRADLEY: How do you resolve these cultural conflicts?

DRONEN: We’re still working on that.

BRADLEY: What advice do you have for other business owners?

DRONEN: We learned a few things that we’re happy to pass on.

First, just because someone speaks English doesn’t mean they understand English. Take the time to help people understand.

Second, email is not a substitute for getting in someone’s face.

Third, cultural differences can create an extra layer of complexity.

Fourth, complexity is bad.

 

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